Comments on: Where is the funding for the Atheist Convention Melbourne 2010? http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010 Critical Review and parody site of the Jesus All About Life campaign Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:48:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 news By: Gee Suss http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-730 Gee Suss Tue, 01 Jun 2010 01:06:25 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-730 lol, christo-zombie :) Enjoy your brainwash! reality is fine you should jump on in <span class="idc-smiley"><span style="background-position: -36px 0pt;"><span>;)</span></span></span> Other than that, just like your beliefs, a kinda shallow comment with no real meat to it. Rather than approach what I am saying, you just post personal attacks, an error of reasoning yet again! lol lol, christo-zombie :)

Enjoy your brainwash! reality is fine you should jump on in <span class="idc-smiley"><span style="background-position: -36px 0pt;"><span>;)</span></span></span>

Other than that, just like your beliefs, a kinda shallow comment with no real meat to it.

Rather than approach what I am saying, you just post personal attacks, an error of reasoning yet again!

lol

]]> By: 3Dimensional http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-729 3Dimensional Mon, 31 May 2010 06:26:41 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-729 You're a curious being Gee Suss. I think you outsmart yourself with your existentialist rhetoric. Firstly, paper is in fact 3 dimensional. Secondly you subscribe to a principle that is attributed to a Franciscan Friar who had faith in the God you refute, and thirdly you suggest I view a video on 'open mindedness'. I'd have thought that having been where you are and now not being there, I was in fact open minded. The irony is I don't have to prove my beliefs to you, I just have to live them. "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings". You have the opportunity to be a king. I suggest not wasting it. You're a curious being Gee Suss. I think you outsmart yourself with your existentialist rhetoric.

Firstly, paper is in fact 3 dimensional. Secondly you subscribe to a principle that is attributed to a Franciscan Friar who had faith in the God you refute, and thirdly you suggest I view a video on 'open mindedness'. I'd have thought that having been where you are and now not being there, I was in fact open minded. The irony is I don't have to prove my beliefs to you, I just have to live them.

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings". You have the opportunity to be a king. I suggest not wasting it.

]]> By: Gee Suss http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-728 Gee Suss Thu, 27 May 2010 02:00:55 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-728 Umm, 2 dimensions? That is flat space, like on a sheet of paper .. do you understand what you are saying sounds silly? You think I am a cartoon character or something? It is simply wishful thinking you are doing, an error of reasoning called a logical fallacy. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking#As_a_logical_fallacy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking#As_...</a> There is no evidence at all for a supernatural dimension. Define what a spirit is and it's function for me. You claim truth, well show us your evidence for it, rather than just claim it with airy-fairy words and assertions that it exists. It's empty and shallow rhetoric. There is no driving reason or need for one to exist, nor any evidence that points to there having to be it as an explanation. It is purely a leap to a conclusion based on no evidence. For the most part my experience with people claiming 'spirits' or 'souls' or 'everything is connected', their definitions of exactly what that is are either not even thought out and it's just a term for nothing really, or using occams razor we find a lot simpler explanations exist. Dunno if you have seen it, really good video just a little off topic on 'open mindedness' and what it means, gotta love QualiaSoup's videos. It will do you a world of good to watch it : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI</a> Until you can explain what 'spirit' means and is, you might as well be saying 'You can't prove sarhgdrfhadrha doesn't exist' Umm, 2 dimensions? That is flat space, like on a sheet of paper .. do you understand what you are saying sounds silly? You think I am a cartoon character or something?

It is simply wishful thinking you are doing, an error of reasoning called a logical fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking#As_…

There is no evidence at all for a supernatural dimension. Define what a spirit is and it's function for me. You claim truth, well show us your evidence for it, rather than just claim it with airy-fairy words and assertions that it exists. It's empty and shallow rhetoric. There is no driving reason or need for one to exist, nor any evidence that points to there having to be it as an explanation. It is purely a leap to a conclusion based on no evidence.

For the most part my experience with people claiming 'spirits' or 'souls' or 'everything is connected', their definitions of exactly what that is are either not even thought out and it's just a term for nothing really, or using occams razor we find a lot simpler explanations exist.

Dunno if you have seen it, really good video just a little off topic on 'open mindedness' and what it means, gotta love QualiaSoup's videos. It will do you a world of good to watch it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

Until you can explain what 'spirit' means and is, you might as well be saying 'You can't prove sarhgdrfhadrha doesn't exist'

]]> By: 3Dimensional http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-727 3Dimensional Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:42 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-727 Gee Suss, I have a suggestion to help you overcome your 2 dimensional existence (body & soul). Why not spend some time trying to get in touch with your supernatural dimension (spirit) rather than expending all your energy trying to discredit those that have and disuading others from experiencing their complete self? Many more influential and intelligent people have tried and have concluded that what they had riducled is in fact true. Gee Suss, I have a suggestion to help you overcome your 2 dimensional existence (body & soul). Why not spend some time trying to get in touch with your supernatural dimension (spirit) rather than expending all your energy trying to discredit those that have and disuading others from experiencing their complete self? Many more influential and intelligent people have tried and have concluded that what they had riducled is in fact true.

]]> By: Gee Suss http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Gee Suss Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:40:36 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-715 Because if it was a convention of accountants it would be eligible for funding. The fuss is that the only reasoning that the funding was delayed for even an answer is because of the philosophical position it is. Get all thingy about religion? Have you read some of the issues presented on the site as to WHY get all thingy about religion? Religion claims rights above and beyond others in our society, just because they believe in a fairy. I'd get just as thingy about astrology if it got tax breaks and an astrologer was funded by our government to teach it in our schools as truth. Because if it was a convention of accountants it would be eligible for funding. The fuss is that the only reasoning that the funding was delayed for even an answer is because of the philosophical position it is.
Get all thingy about religion? Have you read some of the issues presented on the site as to WHY get all thingy about religion? Religion claims rights above and beyond others in our society, just because they believe in a fairy. I'd get just as thingy about astrology if it got tax breaks and an astrologer was funded by our government to teach it in our schools as truth.

]]> By: Alan-G http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Alan-G Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:05:50 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-714 If Atheism is not a religion, why all the fuss? I mean 'A' theism means belief in no god so why get all thingy about religion? A catholic can get thingy about protestantism and visy versy, but they are both theist religions If Atheism is not a religion, why all the fuss? I mean 'A' theism means belief in no god so why get all thingy about religion? A catholic can get thingy about protestantism and visy versy, but they are both theist religions

]]> By: BeerWill http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-516 BeerWill Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:03:11 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-516 In a 2001 Government report, the committe decided quote: "'the advancement of religion’ should continue as a head of charity. It is clear that a large proportion of the population have a need for spiritual sustenance." How does that make sense? What is "spiritual sustenance" anyway? A large proportion of the population also have a very large need for actual defineable mental states such as "happiness". Surely then a business that creates amusing cartoons is a charity? I think atheistic organisations should become official tax deductible charities based on one of the other offiical designations of a charity - "the advancement of education". Then we could use some tax payer money to educate society, including educating them about how their money is spent by the govt. Such an organisation could then compete with the Bible society "charity" by handing out free books promoting the wonder and TRUTH of science and reason wherever they are handing out their medieval books of fiction. In a 2001 Government report, the committe decided quote: "'the advancement of religion’ should continue as a head of charity. It is clear that a large proportion of the population have a need for spiritual sustenance."

How does that make sense? What is "spiritual sustenance" anyway? A large proportion of the population also have a very large need for actual defineable mental states such as "happiness". Surely then a business that creates amusing cartoons is a charity?

I think atheistic organisations should become official tax deductible charities based on one of the other offiical designations of a charity – "the advancement of education". Then we could use some tax payer money to educate society, including educating them about how their money is spent by the govt. Such an organisation could then compete with the Bible society "charity" by handing out free books promoting the wonder and TRUTH of science and reason wherever they are handing out their medieval books of fiction.

]]> By: Viola Wilkins http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Viola Wilkins Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:19:12 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-510 A SEXUALLY explicit illustrated Book of Genesis by the controversial artist, Robert Crumb, which features biblical characters having intercourse and ''gratuitous'' depictions of violence, has been condemned by religious groups. read more: <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/books/explicit-genesis/2009/10/18/1255891760367.html" target="_blank">http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/books...</a> A SEXUALLY explicit illustrated Book of Genesis by the controversial artist, Robert Crumb, which features biblical characters having intercourse and ''gratuitous'' depictions of violence, has been condemned by religious groups.

read more:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/books…

]]> By: Cara http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-508 Cara Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:16:38 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-508 Too bad the proposition for an Australian bus campaign was refused :s Too bad the proposition for an Australian bus campaign was refused :s

]]> By: Warren http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/2009/10/14/where-is-the-funding-for-the-atheist-convention-melbourne-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Warren Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:56 +0000 http://www.jesusallaboutlife.com/?p=380#comment-497 I'm heading down to the convention from Qld, and looking forward to it. I'll be heading down with about 10 others from our atheist group. This isn't about supporting atheism it's about supporting an event that will be bringing money into the state. However if support isn't given when it's given to other 'belief' sectors then it would certainly seem that the government has a bias, and an unconstitutional one. That would make for some great publicity. Perhaps a lead up bus campaign even? I'm heading down to the convention from Qld, and looking forward to it. I'll be heading down with about 10 others from our atheist group.

This isn't about supporting atheism it's about supporting an event that will be bringing money into the state. However if support isn't given when it's given to other 'belief' sectors then it would certainly seem that the government has a bias, and an unconstitutional one. That would make for some great publicity. Perhaps a lead up bus campaign even?

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